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August 22, 2006

XserverFailover

Filed under: Uncategorized — ubuntudemon @ 2:35 pm

I’m sure there are some people out there who are currently pulling their hair out while looking at the terminal because of this problem : Latest Dapper xserver-xorg upgrade might break the xserver

I think this problem and the reactions on the forums 1 / 2 show how important having a working X is to the non-geek Ubuntu users.

In my humble opinion it would be great if we had a way for the Xserver to fall back to vesa (with a lower resolution) in Edgy or Edgy+1. See this specification

It would also be useful to be able to automatically revert to the last working xserver-xorg version if needed.

This XserverFailover spec will be useful because both users and developers are human and are able to make (occasional) mistakes.

forum thread about this spec

10 Comments »

  1. Thats no surprise to me🙂 most people work with a GUI, I would assume.

    I like the idea with the fallback to the last working xserver-xorg version. But wouldn’t that mean to deinstall dependencies automatically? Quite often my X-Server crashed after installing new packages and Apt doesn’t remove deps, afaik.

    br
    kris

    Comment by kris — August 22, 2006 @ 2:56 pm

  2. What would be good is a program that tries all the generic things:

    >apt-get update etc to get progs updated
    >checks some central server if the problem is reported
    >uses central server bug fix, applies it, reboots etc
    > if it cant fix it, tells to “wait”, or use lynx to check forums
    > contains quick guide on how to use lynx

    Comment by Steve B — August 22, 2006 @ 3:34 pm

  3. However, the update broke vesa too. It was some sort of pci hardware update, so it won’t detect some peoples cards, it is as if you have no video card, vesa compatible or otherwise

    Comment by Dude — August 22, 2006 @ 3:49 pm

  4. I would propose something like XP’s Last Known Good configuration restore option.

    Owing to the way that every bit of Ubuntu is neatly divided into packages with dependencies, it should be a cinch to revert to an earlier ‘snapshot’ of the package list.

    Alternatively, they could implement a full System Restore type arrangement that reverts *everything* but it’d be a lot more work!

    Comment by Ash — August 22, 2006 @ 4:29 pm

  5. To the non-geek? Now that was a statement not thought the whole way through…

    Comment by Stoffe — August 22, 2006 @ 8:55 pm

  6. growing pains.. humans make mistakes

    just like my poo poo hard to squeeze out sometimes constipation

    Comment by a — August 23, 2006 @ 12:53 am

  7. Why not some kind of a “Failsafe” setting? Is it possible to have, say, one xorg version (like a backup, maybe 2 versions behind) that you could boot into when something went wrong?

    Sort of like Windows Safe Mode.

    Comment by George — August 23, 2006 @ 5:08 pm

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